WORDS: 931 — I follow a number of Conservative blogs simply to keep tuned in on current opposing arguments. On a couple of these blogs I actually engage with those that post and of course I find myself consistently at odds with house opinion. But one kind of opinions are becoming more frequent and disturbing across Conservative blogdom…. It’s talk about getting into some shooting kind of civil war… and that “they” expect to win it. Well.. no “they” won’t.
I rarely call people the usual slang names when exchanging opinions because that really suggests a loss of general respect for the opinions of others…and it’s just simply letting oneself get emotional over substance. When it comes to the gibberish people toss out as “solutions” to problems as being inflicting harm toward other human beings, especially fellow Americans.. well, those people are certainly entitled to their opinions.. but those people are sheer idiots and completely ignorant of the ramifications of violence to solve problems. In fact.. those people are absolute fucking idiots. But we are humans and as such we are “blessed” with the infinite variety of our evolved species.. which means, even fucking idiots have representation.
To be fair… the nation is smack in the middle of the worst social and political divide-causing-chaos since the 1850’s.. and then we have a pandemic killing people, and fixing that reverts to the divisive politics. Then there’s the weather running amok all across the country because of a human-induced global warming, which itself also enhances the political divide. There’s no question stress levels are high. Equally, there’s no question that each one of us deals with stresses differently. I used to say the 60’s were the worst time in my generation. No… this is. Everything right about now seemingly is tearing at our moral fiber as a nation… and the hate is percolating toward the surface like the lava flows bulging under Yellowstone. (Wanna take odds at which blows first?)
But we should be thankful… we have the Second Amendment! You see, the Second, depending on your interpretation, is there so that Americans can use their guns to fix things.. force some sort of governmental reset… fend off bad people who want to govern badly and steal away all the other Bill of Rights. Who determines this “reset” is needed? Let me help you to answer that… those fucking idiots I just mentioned who want to assure their vote with their trigger fingers.
How Might A Real Civil War Unfold?
There will be no sending-off parades, strutting or pomp.
I really have no idea. More to the point, I know how it’s NOT going to be fought. Certainly no romantic assimilation of like-minded people grabbing the family AK-47 off the mantel and heading off in marching regiments with thoughts of a glorious victory for the greater cause, to fight.. um.. who would they fight? What is the strategy for taking control of the country? Ah, well.. that’s the little stuff to worry about. The important thing is that we all have our guns, right? We’ve seen enough footage over the years with Arabs from various countries celebrating whatever it is they celebrate, by random running in the streets, screaming and hollering incoherently while firing guns into the air. Maybe the fucking idiots here could do that. It doesn’t hurt anyone that I can see.
How Long Would A Real Civil War Last.. And Who Would Win It?
THIS is the real question. Rather, two questions. I will answer it this way… the “war” might last a whole week, and no one wins. Oh dear.. how did I reach that conclusion, you ask? Well, first off we have to determine the starting point of this “war”. What happens, where does it happen, and what’s the intended outcome, or goal of the war to rally the populace to side with the effort? When do we wake up one morning and realize.. “We are at war”? Seems a bit confusing. Still.. we have guns, right? And we have enough fucking idiots that want to use those guns, right?
However the start of this “war” will happen, likely the earliest sign of a national disaster in the making will be a collapse of Wall Street. Markets will tumble. A run on the banks. Everything else is a domino effect. The economy will slow down appreciably as people get skittish about survival and hit the stores.. and the looting starts. The real traumatic effect will be the national distribution system will break down for a variety of reasons. That in itself means.. 3 to 5 days into this people will not give a damn about some civil war because they are now trying to survive. Electric goes down.. followed by water. By this time who cares about the Internet going down. War over. Everyone loses. Welcome Armageddon. And who can we blame… assuming it still makes a difference? The fucking idiots who started all this.
I’m reminded of the WOPR computer in the movie “War Games”… when it discovers the futility in winning at tic-tac-toe….
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?”
The solution to everyone’s problem here is inside the document that’s the source of all the disharmony in the land.. our Constitution. I heard a quote recently… the real currency in a democracy is the ability to treat each other as human beings. Our Founding Fathers saw the centerpiece of democracy was entirely around the idea of…. compromise.
Try to refrain from being a fucking idiot, please.
I’m extremely glad that we have the 2nd Amendment and the natural, civil and Constitutional Right of self defense.
But those keyboard revolutionaries should not be feared. There will be no civil war [part deux]. They huff and they puff…..but we’ve ceded so much of our sovereignty to the State over the years….and they didn’t lift a finger.
I do believe that there will be scattered fires here and there….likely spontaneously, at a school board or town council meeting. It will attract nearby fellow travelers. But once it’s realized that these small flareups have little widespread support [outside of the internet, and the faux-bravado that it enables]…..the faux-patriots will realize that their job, their families and friends [not to mention quite literally their freedom] are at stake. They will fizzle and die.
This is not to say that our Republic is not sick, and in need of a revival back to some semblance of individual liberty and accountability…..but as long as these civil war II fanboys are motivated by lies and charlatans…..they will continue to discredit themselves.
Well stated. I’m inclined to think things will get a bit dicey if certain folks are assassinated or attempted so. These would be popular targets on the periphery of having assigned security. Nonetheless, I am not underestimating these “keyboard revolutionaries” (love the term)… as I am not underestimating the huge mental health problem we have in general that might spawn spontaneous action rather than planned disruption.
My somewhat cynicism that sneaked out in my post regarding the Second Amendment is far more directed at those who tend to “gun worship” the Second. I own guns, I used to be a member of the NRA.. I appreciate the Second as a right… but I do not worship it as a centerpiece of who we are as Americans… in spite of the fact the gun is an American icon.
There are indeed gun fetishists….though I’m sure I would be called one if anyone saw what I have.
Those types seem to usually be folks who would have liked to served if not, for gosh darn [excuse X, Y or Z]. So they play dress up.
..they dress up, or, they once served and long for a return to a life of that kind of relevancy. There have been times in the last 40 years of having been out of the military where I felt a fondness for having served… but then I shake it off. 🙂
Hmmmmm…..a Civil War…….a CIVIL war…..WHHAAAATTTT?????? IS THERE SUCH A THING??????
In my love of words, I understand “civil” to be something at least “contained” for the sake of something or someone. Like my divorce, finally ending in ugly threats, stalking, a national Protection Order, two adult children who didn’t quite comprehend to the fullest degree the WHY of their parents’ splitting up, and two dogs who didn’t understand what the HELL had happened to their idyllic existence.l we agreed to be CIVIL for the sake of our many years together, the kids and grandkids at whose future birthdays and graduation parties we both would want to attend.
so to me, a CIVIL WAR might be pretty dull….each side soon agreeing to accept a new person in their ex’s life…
but war??????
Well history tells us most of them have been bloody and unkind, putrifying heaps of human flesh baking in the sun or freezing overnight, someone left to step forward and dig the holes in the ground. The hideous clean-up completed, there were some parades and speeches here and there and Johnny Comes marching home type songs.
Only here, In America, this time, no North vs. South with clearly defined lines over which to march and conquer.
This time, it’s gonna be outer-llimits weird and not necessarily all of us will understand what is unfolding, because even as it happens and plays out on our many devices, it may be battled in secret. In secret cyber attacks, And I think it’s gonna fall this way for humanity…….
The homeless will be the first “casualties”. Already, without being in a declared state of war-dom, no one wants the homeless around. Not on the streets of their city, not under the freeway overpass, not near their children’s schools, and certainly not on their street. Where will they go? I shudder to suggest no one will care.They have no health care, no jobs, no money, no where to go. When unbridled anger takes over the general public, the homeless will be easy targets.
Those of us who recall the Civil Rights movements of the 1960s will have deja vu as we watch tv coverage of lootings and burnings and mobs in the streets…not just occasionally, but 24/7. More ugliness to clean up.
After you have eaten up all the food in your pantry, you want to go shopping but as we have already seen during the pandemic, once you get to the store, there won’t be any of what you want. Neighbors and strangers will pound on your door demanding water or food or shelter and what do you do?????
Churches and synogogues will be over run and soon the sanctuary in those places will expire. Schools, no longer safe, will be closed, and travel will be severely restricted.
You are right on target, no more electricity, no water, no cell phones, no gasoline at sold-out stations and there will be. folks who choose to wander the streets in body armor. stressed out and ready for a fight. any fight. Maybe with you.
I doubt any of the ladies will gaze upon their man, ala Scarlett O’Hara, and say “Oh MY, don’t you look handsome in your uniform….”
they are more likely to gasp in disbelief and throw up when they get word thier man is dead somewhere. The cost of a war amongst Americans on this ground will be incomprehesible.
I would write more, but I have to go polish my sword and sharpen my knife, check my ammo and call my kids while I still can. Later this evening, I will watch some news and hope not to see more evidence of the next war in America, Holy Cow, I once heard a wise man say.
Lock & Load! 🙂
Well written, I’M taking it to my spot and will link back to your, I’m removing the pandemic stuff because after careful research I believe it to be complete nonsense. Thanks for your analysis, I especially like “in the final analysis it’s not to play.”
My site is here, if you ever care to drop bye. https://whatyouthoughtiwentaway.wordpress.com/ I use humor in times like this when the sourcing gets tough. I’m Jim and I run the circus. Doug referred me, and I’m always locked and loaded.
Jim.. not sure if we got our wires crossed.. but I AM Doug who referred you here. 🙂 I’ve been following you for ages. We’ve replied to each other before. In fact, aren’t you Northern Ca?
P.S. with our record at winning wars, perhaps we should sit all of them out or send in the politicians for a couple of tours before we put boots on the ground.
Gum bumping…..lots of guns to look and sound tough but guts is needed to act….so far they are mostly hot air escaping from overweight gas bags….none the less the division will keep the rhetoric moving….good post, Doug…..chuq
It’s gonna be scary one way or the other, chuq. Be careful.. you don’t wanna get raped by the wild gangs of former Conservatives. 🙂